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Arūpadhammavavatthānavagga Analysis of Formless Dhammas Chapter

4. BrahmalokapaƱha Question on the Brahma World

Rājā āhaā€”The king asked,

ā€œbhante nāgasena, kÄ«vadÅ«ro ito brahmalokoā€ti? ā€œVenerable Nāgasena, how far away is it from here to the Brahma world?ā€

ā€œDÅ«ro kho, mahārāja, ito brahmaloko kÅ«į¹­Ägāramattā silā tamhā patitā ahorattena aį¹­į¹­hacattālÄ«sayojanasahassāni bhassamānā catÅ«hi māsehi pathaviyaį¹ patiį¹­į¹­haheyyāā€ti. ā€œSo far, your majesty, that if a rock the size of a peaked-roof building had fallen from there, and falling at the speed of eighty-four thousand yojanas per day, it would take four months to land on the earth.ā€

ā€œBhante nāgasena, tumhe evaį¹ bhaį¹‡athaā€”ā€œVenerable sir, you say thus,

ā€˜seyyathāpi balavā puriso samiƱjitaį¹ vā bāhaį¹ pasāreyya, pasāritaį¹ vā bāhaį¹ samiƱjeyya; ā€˜Just as a strong man might stretch out his bent arm or bend his stretched arm,

evameva iddhimā bhikkhu cetovasippatto jambudÄ«pe antarahito brahmaloke pātubhaveyyāā€™ti etaį¹ vacanaį¹ na saddahāmi, evaį¹ atisÄ«ghaį¹ tāva bahÅ«ni yojanasatāni gacchissatÄ«ā€ti. in the same way a bhikkhu with psychic powers who has attained mastery over his mind could disappear from JambudÄ«pa and appear in the Brahma world.ā€™ This I do not believe that one might go so quickly over so many hundreds of yojanas.ā€

Thero āhaā€”The elder said,

ā€œkuhiį¹ pana, mahārāja, tava jātabhÅ«mÄ«ā€ti? ā€œWhere then, your majesty, is the place of your birth?ā€

ā€œAtthi, bhante, alasando nāma dÄ«po, tatthāhaį¹ jātoā€ti. ā€œThere is, venerable sir, an island called Alasanda, there I was born.ā€

ā€œKÄ«va dÅ«ro, mahārāja, ito alasando hotÄ«ā€ti? ā€œHow far away, your majesty, is Alasanda from here?ā€

ā€œDvimattāni, bhante, yojanasatānÄ«ā€ti. ā€œAbout 200 yojanas, venerable sir.ā€

ā€œAbhijānāsi nu tvaį¹, mahārāja, tattha kiƱcideva karaį¹‡Ä«yaį¹ karitvā saritāā€ti? ā€œDo you not know, your majesty, of some business that you have completed there and now remember?ā€

ā€œÄ€ma, bhante, sarāmÄ«ā€ti. ā€œYes, venerable sir, I remember.ā€

ā€œLahuį¹ kho tvaį¹, mahārāja, gatosi dvimattāni yojanasatānÄ«ā€ti. ā€œIndeed, so quickly you have gone about two hundred yojanas, your majesty!ā€

ā€œKallosi, bhante nāgasenāā€ti. ā€œYou are clever, venerable Nāgasena.ā€

BrahmalokapaƱho catuttho. Question on the Brahma World fourth
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