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Saį¹yutta Nikāya 44.3 Linked Discourses 44.3

1. Abyākatavagga 1. The Undeclared Points

Paį¹­hamasāriputtakoį¹­į¹­hikasutta With Sāriputta and Koį¹­į¹­hita (1st)

Ekaį¹ samayaį¹ āyasmā ca sāriputto, āyasmā ca mahākoį¹­į¹­hiko bārāį¹‡asiyaį¹ viharanti isipatane migadāye. At one time Venerable Sāriputta and Venerable Mahākoį¹­į¹­hita were staying near Varanasi, in the deer park at Isipatana.

Atha kho āyasmā mahākoį¹­į¹­hiko sāyanhasamayaį¹ paį¹­isallānā vuį¹­į¹­hito yenāyasmā sāriputto tenupasaį¹…kami; upasaį¹…kamitvā āyasmatā sāriputtena saddhiį¹ sammodi. Then in the late afternoon, Venerable Mahākoį¹­į¹­hita came out of retreat, went to Venerable Sāriputta, and exchanged greetings with him.

SammodanÄ«yaį¹ kathaį¹ sāraį¹‡Ä«yaį¹ vÄ«tisāretvā ekamantaį¹ nisÄ«di. Ekamantaį¹ nisinno kho āyasmā mahākoį¹­į¹­hiko āyasmantaį¹ sāriputtaį¹ etadavoca: When the greetings and polite conversation were over, he sat down to one side, and said to Sāriputta:

ā€œKiį¹ nu kho, āvuso sāriputta, hoti tathāgato paraį¹ maraį¹‡Äā€ti? ā€œReverend Sāriputta, does a realized one still exist after death?ā€

ā€œAbyākataį¹ kho etaį¹, āvuso, bhagavatā: ā€œReverend, this has not been declared by the Buddha.ā€

ā€˜hoti tathāgato paraį¹ maraį¹‡Äā€™ā€ti.

ā€œKiį¹ panāvuso, na hoti tathāgato paraį¹ maraį¹‡Äā€ti? ā€œWell then, does a realized one no longer exist after death? ā€¦

ā€œEtampi kho, āvuso, abyākataį¹ bhagavatā:

ā€˜na hoti tathāgato paraį¹ maraį¹‡Äā€™ā€ti.

ā€œKiį¹ nu kho, āvuso, hoti ca na ca hoti tathāgato paraį¹ maraį¹‡Äā€ti? Does a realized one both exist and not exist after death? ā€¦

ā€œAbyākataį¹ kho etaį¹, āvuso, bhagavatā:

ā€˜hoti ca na ca hoti tathāgato paraį¹ maraį¹‡Äā€™ā€ti.

ā€œKiį¹ panāvuso, neva hoti na na hoti tathāgato paraį¹ maraį¹‡Äā€ti? Does a realized one neither exist nor not exist after death?ā€

ā€œEtampi kho, āvuso, abyākataį¹ bhagavatā: ā€œThis too has not been declared by the Buddha.ā€

ā€˜neva hoti na na hoti tathāgato paraį¹ maraį¹‡Äā€™ā€ti.

ā€œā€˜Kiį¹ nu kho, āvuso, hoti tathāgato paraį¹ maraį¹‡Äā€™ti iti puį¹­į¹­ho samāno, ā€˜abyākataį¹ kho etaį¹, āvuso, bhagavatāā€”ā€œReverend, when asked these questions, you say that they have not been declared by the Buddha.

hoti tathāgato paraį¹ maraį¹‡Äā€™ti vadesi ā€¦peā€¦

ā€˜kiį¹ panāvuso, neva hoti na na hoti tathāgato paraį¹ maraį¹‡Äā€™ti iti puį¹­į¹­ho samāno:

ā€˜etampi kho, āvuso, abyākataį¹ bhagavatāā€”

neva hoti na na hoti tathāgato paraį¹ maraį¹‡Äā€™ti vadesi.

Ko nu kho, āvuso, hetu, ko paccayo yenetaį¹ abyākataį¹ bhagavatāā€ti? Whatā€™s the cause, whatā€™s the reason why they have not been declared by the Buddha?ā€

ā€œHoti tathāgato paraį¹ maraį¹‡Äti kho, āvuso, rÅ«pagatametaį¹. ā€œReverend, ā€˜does a realized one still exist after death?ā€™ is included in form.

Na hoti tathāgato paraį¹ maraį¹‡Äti, rÅ«pagatametaį¹. ā€˜Does a realized one no longer exist after death?ā€™ is included in form.

Hoti ca na ca hoti tathāgato paraį¹ maraį¹‡Äti, rÅ«pagatametaį¹. ā€˜Does a realized one both still exist and no longer exist after death?ā€™ is included in form.

Neva hoti na na hoti tathāgato paraį¹ maraį¹‡Äti, rÅ«pagatametaį¹. ā€˜Does a realized one neither still exist nor no longer exist after death?ā€™ is included in form.

Hoti tathāgato paraį¹ maraį¹‡Äti kho, āvuso, vedanāgatametaį¹. ā€˜does a realized one still exist after death?ā€™ is included in feeling ā€¦

Na hoti tathāgato paraį¹ maraį¹‡Äti, vedanāgatametaį¹.

Hoti ca na ca hoti tathāgato paraį¹ maraį¹‡Äti, vedanāgatametaį¹.

Neva hoti na na hoti tathāgato paraį¹ maraį¹‡Äti, vedanāgatametaį¹.

Hoti tathāgato paraį¹ maraį¹‡Äti kho, āvuso, saƱƱāgatametaį¹. perception ā€¦

Na hoti tathāgato paraį¹ maraį¹‡Äti, saƱƱāgatametaį¹.

Hoti ca na ca hoti tathāgato paraį¹ maraį¹‡Äti, saƱƱāgatametaį¹.

Neva hoti na na hoti tathāgato paraį¹ maraį¹‡Äti, saƱƱāgatametaį¹.

Hoti tathāgato paraį¹ maraį¹‡Äti kho, āvuso, saį¹…khāragatametaį¹. choices ā€¦

Na hoti tathāgato paraį¹ maraį¹‡Äti, saį¹…khāragatametaį¹.

Hoti ca na ca hoti tathāgato paraį¹ maraį¹‡Äti, saį¹…khāragatametaį¹.

Neva hoti na na hoti tathāgato paraį¹ maraį¹‡Äti, saį¹…khāragatametaį¹.

Hoti tathāgato paraį¹ maraį¹‡Äti kho, āvuso, viƱƱāį¹‡agatametaį¹. consciousness.

Na hoti tathāgato paraį¹ maraį¹‡Äti, viƱƱāį¹‡agatametaį¹. ā€˜Does a realized one no longer exist after death?ā€™ is included in consciousness.

Hoti ca na ca hoti tathāgato paraį¹ maraį¹‡Äti, viƱƱāį¹‡agatametaį¹. ā€˜Does a realized one both still exist and no longer exist after death?ā€™ is included in consciousness.

Neva hoti na na hoti tathāgato paraį¹ maraį¹‡Äti, viƱƱāį¹‡agatametaį¹. ā€˜Does a realized one neither still exist nor no longer exist after death?ā€™ is included in consciousness.

Ayaį¹ kho, āvuso, hetu ayaį¹ paccayo, yenetaį¹ abyākataį¹ bhagavatāā€ti. This is the cause, this is the reason why this has not been declared by the Buddha.ā€

Tatiyaį¹.
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