Saṁyutta Nikāya 12.13
Translators: sujato and bodhi
Linked Discourses 12.13
2. Āhāravagga
2. Fuel
Samaṇabrāhmaṇasutta
Ascetics and Brahmins Ascetics and Brahmins
Sāvatthiyaṁ viharati.
At Sāvatthı̄.
At Sāvatthī.
“Ye hi keci, bhikkhave, samaṇā vā brāhmaṇā vā jarāmaraṇaṁ nappajānanti, jarāmaraṇasamudayaṁ nappajānanti, jarāmaraṇanirodhaṁ nappajānanti, jarāmaraṇanirodhagāminiṁ paṭipadaṁ nappajānanti;
“Bhikkhus, those ascetics or brahmins who do not understand aging-and-death, its origin, its cessation, and the way leading to its cessation;
“Mendicants, there are ascetics and brahmins who don’t understand old age and death, their origin, their cessation, and the practice that leads to their cessation.
jātiṁ …pe…
who do not understand birth …
They don’t understand rebirth …
bhavaṁ …
existence …
continued existence …
upādānaṁ …
clinging …
grasping …
taṇhaṁ …
craving …
craving …
vedanaṁ …
feeling …
feeling …
phassaṁ …
contact …
contact …
saḷāyatanaṁ …
the six sense bases …
the six sense fields …
nāmarūpaṁ …
name-and-form …
name and form …
viññāṇaṁ …
consciousness …
consciousness …
saṅkhāre nappajānanti, saṅkhārasamudayaṁ nappajānanti, saṅkhāranirodhaṁ nappajānanti, saṅkhāranirodhagāminiṁ paṭipadaṁ nappajānanti,
volitional formations, their origin, their cessation, and the way leading to their cessation:
They don’t understand choices, their origin, their cessation, and the practice that leads to their cessation.
na me te, bhikkhave, samaṇā vā brāhmaṇā vā samaṇesu vā samaṇasammatā brāhmaṇesu vā brāhmaṇasammatā; na ca pana te āyasmanto sāmaññatthaṁ vā brahmaññatthaṁ vā diṭṭheva dhamme sayaṁ abhiññā sacchikatvā upasampajja viharanti.
these I do not consider to be ascetics among ascetics or brahmins among brahmins, and these venerable ones do not, by realizing it for themselves with direct knowledge, in this very life enter and dwell in the goal of asceticism or the goal of brahminhood.
I don’t deem them as true ascetics and brahmins. Those venerables don’t realize the goal of life as an ascetic or brahmin, and don’t live having realized it with their own insight.
Ye ca kho keci, bhikkhave, samaṇā vā brāhmaṇā vā jarāmaraṇaṁ pajānanti, jarāmaraṇasamudayaṁ pajānanti, jarāmaraṇanirodhaṁ pajānanti, jarāmaraṇanirodhagāminiṁ paṭipadaṁ pajānanti;
But, bhikkhus, those ascetics and brahmins who understand aging-and-death, its origin, its cessation, and the way leading to its cessation;
There are ascetics and brahmins who do understand old age and death, their origin, their cessation, and the practice that leads to their cessation.
jātiṁ …pe…
who understand birth …
They understand rebirth …
bhavaṁ …
existence …
continued existence …
upādānaṁ …
clinging …
grasping …
taṇhaṁ …
craving …
craving …
vedanaṁ …
feeling …
feeling …
phassaṁ …
contact …
contact …
saḷāyatanaṁ …
the six sense bases …
the six sense fields …
nāmarūpaṁ …
name-and-form …
name and form …
viññāṇaṁ …
consciousness …
consciousness …
saṅkhāre pajānanti, saṅkhārasamudayaṁ pajānanti, saṅkhāranirodhaṁ pajānanti, saṅkhāranirodhagāminiṁ paṭipadaṁ pajānanti,
volitional formations, their origin, their cessation, and the way leading to their cessation:
They understand choices, their origin, their cessation, and the practice that leads to their cessation.
te kho me, bhikkhave, samaṇā vā brāhmaṇā vā samaṇesu ceva samaṇasammatā brāhmaṇesu ca brāhmaṇasammatā; te ca panāyasmanto sāmaññatthañca brahmaññatthañca diṭṭheva dhamme sayaṁ abhiññā sacchikatvā upasampajja viharantī”ti.
these I consider to be ascetics among ascetics and brahmins, brahmins among brahmins, and these venerable ones, by realizing it for themselves with direct knowledge, in this very life enter and dwell in the goal of asceticism and the goal of brahminhood.”
I deem them as true ascetics and brahmins. Those venerables realize the goal of life as an ascetic or brahmin, and live having realized it with their own insight.”
Tatiyaṁ.